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    <title>IMAGINiT Civil Solutions Blog</title>
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    <description>Topics feature Autodesk civil engineering software, including AutoCAD, Land Desktop, and Civil 3D.</description>
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    <copyright>Copyright 2008</copyright>
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      <title>Civil 3D 2009 and the Design Criteria Editor Part 2</title>
      <author>imaginitfeeds@rand.com (Douglas Benoit, PE, ICE)</author>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;Today is the day that I make the 
&lt;a href="http://imaginit.rand.com/files/Design%20Criteria%20Editor%20-%20Part%202.pdf"&gt;
second part&lt;/a&gt; of my two part series on the 
&lt;a href="http://rand.com/imaginit/1/technology/software/autocad_civil3d.htm"&gt;
AutoCAD&amp;reg; Civil 3D&amp;reg; 2009&lt;/a&gt; Design Criteria Editor
available. So hopefully, during last weekend's hiatus, you had a
chance to get acquainted with 
&lt;a href="http://imaginit.rand.com/files/Design%20Criteria%20Editor%20-%20Part%201.pdf"&gt;
Part 1 of the Design Criteria Editor&lt;/a&gt;?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What? I can't believe that you wasted a perfectly good weekend
relaxing on your deck or by the pool or even working on that ever
expanding "honey-do" list. I guess I can't fault you for that.
Anyways, I hope you are rested, because now we are off to
continue the tour and dive into the 
&lt;a href="http://imaginit.rand.com/files/Design%20Criteria%20Editor%20-%20Part%202.pdf"&gt;
Design Criteria Editor Part 2&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So take a look at 
&lt;a href="http://imaginit.rand.com/files/Design%20Criteria%20Editor%20-%20Part%202.pdf"&gt;
Part 2&lt;/a&gt; along with 
&lt;a href="http://imaginit.rand.com/files/Design%20Criteria%20Editor%20-%20Part%201.pdf"&gt;
Part 1&lt;/a&gt; and see if it helps you on your quest to create a
horizontal and vertical criteria file that you can apply to your
current and future road designs.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But before I go, I would like to show you something else. The
other day I was messing around with point styles trying to figure
out how to apply one of those cool multi-view blocks (you know
the ones that have both 2D and 3D views) to a "tree" shot. That
way when I view the data 3-dimensionally, the trees "pop up" to
show me way cool 3D trees in my drawing. So, being a smart and
groovy guy, I inserted the block that I wanted into the dwg so I could apply it to the Point Style. Pretty smart of me
don't you think?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well, did you know that multi-view blocks are made up of
multiple parts, and when you view them within the point style
editor all you see are the parts that make up that block? Yeah, I
knew that. Did you also know that the name of block does not show
up within the point style editor? Yeah, I knew that too.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://imaginit.rand.com/files/01-multi-view%20block.jpg"&gt;
(Click to Enlarge)
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;img alt="Multi-View Block Parts"
src="http://imaginit.rand.com/files/01-multi-view%20block.jpg"
height="348" width="400" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So how does one go about assigning a multi-view block to a
point style and maintain its integrity. Don't ask me, I
don't know either. Just kidding, but I'll admit that I am just a
little embarrassed about this because it took a call to Autodesk
Tech Support and a talk with Almas to straighten me out.
Simply right click inside the block selection window and a super secret "Browse" button is displayed. Now you can browse to
the multi-view block or block or you choosing, and it will be
assigned to the point style. How simple is that?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://imaginit.rand.com/files/03-Browse.jpg"&gt;(Click to
Enlarge)
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;img alt="Super Secret Browse!"
src="http://imaginit.rand.com/files/03-Browse.jpg" height="289"
width="400" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh, by the way, this is spelled out in the Help files... plain
as day!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://imaginit.rand.com/files/02-Help%20file.jpg"&gt;(Click
to Enlarge)
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;img alt="HELP!"
src="http://imaginit.rand.com/files/02-Help%20file.jpg"
height="157" width="400" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I know, I don't read the help either! 
&lt;img alt="Groovy" src="http://imaginit.rand.com/files/Smiley.jpg"
border="0" /&gt; But it is there and the secret is out!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And don't forget to check out Civil 3D 2009's Design Criteria
Editor 
&lt;a href="http://imaginit.rand.com/files/Design%20Criteria%20Editor%20-%20Part%201.pdf"&gt;
Part 1&lt;/a&gt; and 
&lt;a href="http://imaginit.rand.com/files/Design%20Criteria%20Editor%20-%20Part%202.pdf"&gt;
Part 2&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks and Enjoy!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      
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      <category>design criteria</category>
      <category>part 2</category>
      <category>point style</category>
      <category>groovy</category>
      
      <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:53:22 EDT</pubDate>
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      <title>Civil 3D 2009 and the Design Criteria Editor Part 1</title>
      <author>imaginitfeeds@rand.com (Douglas Benoit, PE, ICE)</author>
      <source url="http://imaginit.rand.com/blogs/getBlogByBlogId/5/five.xml"/>
      
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;As mentioned in my last posting, today I will start you out on
a guided tour of the 
&lt;a href="http://rand.com/imaginit/1/technology/software/autocad_civil3d.htm"&gt;

&lt;b&gt;AutoCAD&amp;reg; Civil3D &amp;reg; 2009&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;a href="http://imaginit.rand.com/files/Design%20Criteria%20Editor%20-%20Part%201.pdf"&gt;

&lt;b&gt;Design Criteria Editor&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;/a&gt;, with yours truly as your guide. What a scary thought that
is. Anyways, due to the length of the tour (as usual I got a
little carried away with all of pretty pictures); a rest stop
will be provided so that you can catch your breath after the
first leg (Part 1). This will enable you to thoroughly enjoying
the second leg (Part 2) next week.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However, before we embark on our journey, I would like to take
just a few moments and pass along a little "mouse" tech tip that
comes from 
&lt;b&gt;Stephen Cowling&lt;/b&gt; at 
&lt;b&gt;Gilbert and Associates&lt;/b&gt; in Adelaide, SA which was forwarded
to me by 
&lt;b&gt;Penny Ryall&lt;/b&gt; from IMAGINiT's North Adelaide, South
Australia office. Below is Stephen's tip...
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;.....&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Some mouse software likes to assign special functions to the
middle button. This invariably plays havoc with AutoCAD.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To fix a problem where middle button pan does not work, go to
the mouse settings software. This is sometimes accessible through
the control panel, sometimes you'll need to find the software in
start&amp;gt;all programs.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Assign the middle button to 'middle button' rather than any
autoscroll or similar.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To fix a problem where the wheel zoom doesn't work, you'll
need to go to the wheel settings. You should see something like
'program exceptions' where you can add in the AutoCAD application
by browsing to c:\program files\autocad...\autocad.exe. This
forces the wheel to behave like a wheel only, rather than some
sort of 'intelligent' scrolling.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This should be once-off, but if you run more than one version
of AutoCAD you'll have to add in each exe file separately.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I know the mice that come with the Lenovo workstations have
both of these problems. Logitech mice have the first problem but
not the second.
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;.....&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ok, back to the tour. I have painstakingly stepped through the
process so that you can create a new criteria file or modify a
copy of an existing one. The steps have been divided up into two
parts (Part 1 and Part 2) to show you how you can set up a 
&lt;a href="http://rand.com/imaginit/1/technology/software/autocad_civil3d.htm"&gt;
Civil 3D 2009&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;a href="http://imaginit.rand.com/files/Design%20Criteria%20Editor%20-%20Part%201.pdf"&gt;

&lt;b&gt;Design Criteria&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;/a&gt; file. The ultimate goal is a criteria file that applies your
area's horizontal and vertical road design values to your
project.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://imaginit.rand.com/files/Design%20Criteria%20Editor%20-%20Part%201.pdf"&gt;

&lt;b&gt;Civil 3D Design Criteria Editor - Part 1&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Part 2 will be ready and available early next week.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Design Criteria Editor may not be quite perfect... yet.
But it you ask me (I heard you ask), what they gave us in this
release of Civil 3D is totally righteous!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, thanks Stephen for the mouse tip, and thank you Penny
for sending this my way.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That is all... for now.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks and Enjoy!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      
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      <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:33:42 EDT</pubDate>
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      <title>Civil 3D 2009 and the AutoCAD Tray Settings</title>
      <author>imaginitfeeds@rand.com (Douglas Benoit, PE, ICE)</author>
      <source url="http://imaginit.rand.com/blogs/getBlogByBlogId/5/five.xml"/>
      
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;Here's another little 
&lt;a href="http://rand.com/imaginit/1/technology/software/autocad.htm"&gt;
AutoCAD&amp;reg;&lt;/a&gt; and 
&lt;a href="http://rand.com/imaginit/1/technology/software/autocad_civil3d.htm"&gt;
AutoCAD&amp;reg; Civil 3D&amp;reg; 2009&lt;/a&gt; related tip.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Have you noticed that with the last two versions of AutoCAD
and the AutoCAD based products that our good friend the little
service notification balloon down in the lower right corner pops
up for more and more things?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img alt="Service Notification Balloon"
src="http://imaginit.rand.com/files/1-balloon.jpg" border="0" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And then, it waits for you to close it. Is it just me or do
you also find it just a teeny tiny bit annoying? Good, because I
thought that perhaps it was just me.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I'm also betting that like me, you don't mind being informed
when to reload an Xref or when to synchronize a data shortcut,
but you'd like a way to limit the time that that little balloon
is display. By now I'm guessing that you've already figured out
that I'm about to tell you how to do this. Darn you're good, and
yes, there is a way, and there are settings that allow us to
adjust how long that service notification balloon pops up before
it automatically closes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The secret lies in that little triangular 
&lt;img alt="Tray Settings"
src="http://imaginit.rand.com/files/5-button.jpg" border="0" /&gt;
button in the lower right corner of your AutoCAD or AutoCAD based
product.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img alt="Application Status Bar Menu"
src="http://imaginit.rand.com/files/2-app%20status%20bar%20menu.jpg"
border="0" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Simply left click on that button and select 
&lt;b&gt;Tray Settings&lt;/b&gt; from the pop-up list... it's at the very
bottom.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img alt="Tray Settings"
src="http://imaginit.rand.com/files/3-tray%20settings.jpg" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This will display the 
&lt;b&gt;
&lt;i&gt;Tray Settings&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;/b&gt; window. In the 
&lt;i&gt;Tray Settings&lt;/i&gt;, click on the 
&lt;b&gt;Display time&lt;/b&gt; radio button and set the time from 1 to 10
seconds.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img alt="Display Time"
src="http://imaginit.rand.com/files/4-display%20time.jpg"
border="0" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Pick 
&lt;b&gt;OK&lt;/b&gt; when you're done, and that's it. The notification
balloon will now display for the time selected and then
automatically close. If you've set the time between 4 and 6
seconds, you should have ample time to see the notification, read
it, and act on it accordingly. Anything less than 4 and it's difficult
to see it, read it and react to it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hopefully this little nugget will reduce your stress level
just a little.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Next time join me for a guided tour of the Design Criteria
Editor in 
&lt;a href="http://rand.com/imaginit/1/technology/software/autocad_civil3d.htm"&gt;
AutoCAD &amp;reg; Civil 3D&amp;reg; 2009&lt;/a&gt; where you can apply your
areas horizontal and vertical design standards.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks and Enjoy!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      
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      <title>Using Layer Isolate in Civil 3D 2009</title>
      <author>imaginitfeeds@rand.com (Douglas Benoit, PE, ICE)</author>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;Here is a little tip that I'd like to pass your way...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Did you know that in 2008 the Layer ISOLATE command
(originally the Express Layer Isolate command) was not only
incorporated into 
&lt;a href="http://rand.com/imaginit/1/technology/software/autocad.htm"&gt;
AutoCAD&amp;reg;&lt;/a&gt;, but was also enhanced to give us a couple of
options to control its behavior and what it did or did not
display on screen? Well, it did and below are shown a couple of
ways, in 
&lt;a href="http://rand.com/imaginit/1/technology/software/autocad_civil3d.htm"&gt;
AutoCAD&amp;reg; Civil 3D&amp;reg; 2009&lt;/a&gt;, where you can adjust those
settings to your choosing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://imaginit.rand.com/files/i01.jpg"&gt;(Click to
Enlarge)
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;img alt="Ribbon Panel Layer Isolate"
src="http://imaginit.rand.com/files/i01.jpg" height="145"
width="400" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Whether you select the command from Layers Ribbon Panel (like
I have), the Layers II toolbar, the 
&lt;i&gt;Format &amp;gt; Layer Tools&lt;/i&gt;, or typed LAYISO on the command
line (yes, i too type many of my commands... but i needed a
pretty picture), you can enter "S" for settings and then select 
&lt;b&gt;
&lt;u&gt;O&lt;/u&gt;
&lt;/b&gt; for 
&lt;i&gt;Off&lt;/i&gt; or 
&lt;b&gt;
&lt;u&gt;L&lt;/u&gt;
&lt;/b&gt; for 
&lt;i&gt;Lock and fade&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;img alt="Layer Isolate"
src="http://imaginit.rand.com/files/i02.jpg" border="0" /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://imaginit.rand.com/files/i03.jpg"&gt;(Click to
Enlarge)
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;img alt="Text Window"
src="http://imaginit.rand.com/files/i03.jpg" height="171"
width="400" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Another way is to select the 
&lt;b&gt;Settings&lt;/b&gt; button 
&lt;img alt="Settings" src="http://imaginit.rand.com/files/i04.jpg"
border="0" /&gt; in the 
&lt;i&gt;Layer Properties Manager&lt;/i&gt;, which can be found in the upper
right corner of the manager and will display the Layer Settings
dialog box where the Isolate Layer Settings that can be modified
to your liking.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href="http://imaginit.rand.com/files/i05.jpg"&gt;(Click to
Enlarge)
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;img alt="" src="http://imaginit.rand.com/files/i05.jpg"
height="400" width="278" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;i&gt;Note: in the 2009, the Layer Properties Manager is modeless
which means that it can remain open (floating or docked) and can
be set to Auto-hide like other palettes found in AutoCAD.&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My guess is that by now you are saying to yourself... Doug,
why should I even care about what is set in the Layer Isolate
settings. Well, you should care if you are trying to select
"Drawing Objects" or "Contours", for example, as C3D surface
data. If your Layer Isolate settings are set to "Lock and fade",
then C3D 
&lt;b&gt;won't&lt;/b&gt; add the data to the surface 
&lt;i&gt;Definition&lt;/i&gt;. If you set the setting to "Off", then the data

&lt;b&gt;will&lt;/b&gt; be added to the surface and you will see the fruit of
your labor.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now don't get me wrong, I like the look and feel of the "Lock
and fade"; however, that nice look and feel doesn't help me out
when I am trying to add certain data types to my surface.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you're already in the know about this because of another Blog or you've found it
on your own, then back to work (just kidding, there is nothing
wrong with nice mental break know and then). If this is new to
you, then...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks and Enjoy!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      
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      <category>isolate</category>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:25:13 EDT</pubDate>
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      <title>The Last Release of AutoCAD Land Desktop</title>
      <author>imaginitfeeds@rand.com (Douglas Benoit, PE, ICE)</author>
      <source url="http://imaginit.rand.com/blogs/getBlogByBlogId/5/five.xml"/>
      
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;The day is finally here! Autodesk is announcing 
&lt;b&gt;today&lt;/b&gt; that AutoCAD Land Desktop 2009 will be the last...
final... no more... release.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you haven't made a complete switch to 
&lt;a href="http://www.rand.com/imaginit/1/technology/software/autocad_civil3d.htm"&gt;
AutoCAD&amp;reg; Civil 3D&amp;reg;&lt;/a&gt; or you've just started the process
to make the switch you don't have to worry about losing LDT quite
yet. The Land Desktop Companion will continue to be available as
part of Civil 3D 
&lt;b&gt;
&lt;u&gt;subscription&lt;/u&gt;
&lt;/b&gt;. That's right; you must have your Civil 3D on subscription
in order to receive the LDT Companion. And after July 8th, LDT
Companion will only be available as a download from the
Subscription web site. So what I am trying to say is that it will

&lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; be shipped in the box with Civil 3D after July
8th!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh, one more thing, after July 8th, subscription will no
longer be available for Land Desktop.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However, as we say goodbye to Land Desktop, we are saying
hello to a new product called Civil. It has half the fat and a
third less calories as regular Civil 3D.
&lt;img alt="" src="http://imaginit.rand.com/files/po_undecided.jpg"
border="0" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Civil 2009 will have all of the civil functionality as Civil
3D, but will not have any of the Map functionality or include the
Hydraflow Extensions. Civil 2009 will also 
&lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; include the Land Desktop Companion.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The new Civil product will have a lower list price and is
destined to be a more affordable solution for technicians and
drafters that don't require the Map tools or a need to run and
any hydrology or hydraulic analysis.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How's that for news involving the Civil industry? Personally,
I'm all for it and it's time overdue. You disagree? Everyone is
allowed their own opinion, but before you disagree too hard and
too long, you may want to consider the following:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul class="noindent"&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hasn't Autodesk given us the functionality that we've been
asking for, for so many years? Darn right they have. It is pretty
hard for me to feel your pain when Autodesk listened and then
delivered what we asked for, and then many out there whined because
things changed. Well my friend's, technology is constantly
changing and you can either get on board and enjoy the ride, or
sit on the sidelines.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul class="noindent"&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Isn't the functionality in LDT (an automated manual process)
now found in Civil 3D (dynamic modeling)? As far as I can
tell, it is all in there and way more.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul class="noindent"&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Isn't Civil 3D just as stable as LDT. Absolutely! I can still
crash any release of LDT. I will admit that it does take more
"horsepower" to run and efficiently use Civil 3D, but since you
are keeping you hardware current that isn't a problem...
right?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul class="noindent"&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Check the source of any negative feedback concerning Civil
3D. If the person you are talking to has nothing good to say
about Civil 3D, ask them to explain why so many have implemented
Civil 3D and are successfully using it. Ask them what release
they are talking about (yes, an earlier release or two may have
been slightly unstable). Ask them if they've had Civil 3D
training... of any kind. My guess is that you will be able to
eliminate them as any kind of source on C3D.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul class="noindent"&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Finally, Civil 3D is just...well, Way Cool!&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ok, time for me to step off the soap box and get back into
Civil 3D.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As always... Thanks and Enjoy!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      
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      <category>civil</category>
      
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